Showing posts with label emails. Show all posts
Showing posts with label emails. Show all posts

April 22, 2010

Whenever Creationists Email Atheists, It Is Like Ground Hog Day

I'm really losing patience with Christians, and sometimes religious Jews who take the time to email me.  Usually it starts off all nicey nicey, but it always ends up contentious in the end.  And I really don't have the time to explain evolution to a willfully ignorant reality denialist, because they've seen the answers before, and they choose not to understand them and/or ignore them.

But I do think it serves a purpose to confront Cretards in a public forum for reasons I explain below in my latest unsolicited email exchange with a Christian Fundy.  If this was two or three years ago, I probably would have spent hours doing research, and providing links, and explaining myself.  But like I said, it is futile.

Here is the exchange with someone with the initials EJ:

EJ:  Your blog would be amusing if it wasn't so 1) angry, 2) narrow-minded, 3) militant, and 4) parochial.  Your anti-god profession approaches and gains a level of devotion that clearly looks like religious fervor. I hope that you will find real happiness in your life. Take Good Care, Eric J.

Baconeater: Actually, having 100 followers is evidence that my blog is amusing.  I have happiness in my life.  I am not narrow minded (very few atheists are).  Not angry either, just keeping it real.  I'm militant only because I openly criticize religion.  And since people still want to put religion in my face, it needs to be criticized.

Editors note:  Expanding on the narrow minded comment.  Most atheists assumed there was a God through brainwashing from family.  I was no different.  It takes an open mind to ask questions, and seriously look at the answers.  Thinking about God, and then questioning things about God, while learning about the natural sciences was pretty much a natural progression that most today's atheists went through.  Again, God was given just about every benefit of the doubt to begin with.  It takes a real open mind to conclude there is no evidence for God, and no reason for a God to exist at all.

EJ:  Narrow-mindedness isn't something you can dismiss by saying, "Am not!" Your blog has the predictable atheist screed  of, in no particular order, There is no God, I'm right! / you're wrong!, (the entropy-defying) evolution theory is a fact, Christians are simple, Creationists are dumb, Republicans are dumb, hate any who'd dare think they're right / you're wrong, and a "liberal" dose of argumentum ad hominem sprinkled throughout. Though not clearly laid out, I'm also sure you're pro abortion and pro homosexual civil rights protection.  So for narrow-mindedness, your blog is as clear a display as possible of a sociological-template for, "What one must hold to as a faithful atheist!". Like it or not.

Baconeater:  Your true idiotic Christian bullshit has come out , predictably (and no, not all Christians are idiots like you, just the internet warrior ones who continue to deny reality.  Evolution is fact (Watch Potholer 54's Made Easy series).  A 5 year old can figure it out.  And there is no evidence for God.

Narrow mindedness is to be anti-homosexual civil rights protection.

You are funny too in that you don't even know how hypocritical you are in painting my atheism as predictable, yet saying that I paint all Christians, Repubs, etc with the same brush.   You cretins (internet morons for Christ) are hysterical.  Thanks for the laugh.

But seriously, you are no better than a Muslim who blows himself up for Allah.  Both of you want to stone gays if you could.

What a tragic waste of a life.

By the way, you anti-evolutionists are why so many Christians leave the flock.  It doesn't take much to figure out you are lying or willfully ignorant, and once young people start questioning this, they question everything, and many end up on my blog via Google to see there is no evidence for Jesus or Moses as well.

You are living a lie.

Why are you so angry?

Entropy and evolution.  You will willfully deny this, not try to understand it, or ignore it.  Not sure how sick a cretard you are, though I believe you to be very far gone:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/11/entropy_and_evolution.php


EJ:
I am wondering what the consensus is among the anti-theism and/or scientific community on the age of the universe and age of earth? Just curious how much time is estimated for evolution by unguided natural selection to present stumble upon today's enormous variety of life.

I don't want a reference or a blog as answer to the entropy problem. Give me your personal understanding for how when everything we see in nature moves from order to chaos over time, the most complex form of life we know of is able to move against that downhill force of nature. 
You're opinion, not someone else's.

"You cretins (internet morons for Christ) are hysterical";  "not all Christians are idiots like you,";  "how sick a cretard you are"
You demonstrate the accuracy of my assertion that argumentum ad hominem is among the most relied upon strategies in blogs like yours.

"Both of you want to stone gays if you could."


Civil protection is intended to protect individuals from ostracism that's due to things beyond their control (eg, race, creed, religion, and disability.) Some 
hold that homosexuals are "made" that way. Others that they evolve to that status.  Regardless, the answer is never stoning**. Your Judaism shines out in this bias and I choose to believe that such pronouncements are beneath you.

"how hypocritical you are in painting my atheism as predictable"
Well is it? Regarding my hypocrisy, I am one who actually believes everyone has the right to believe what they want to. I also believe that some of these people may even believe their ideas as strongly as I do my own. 

"Thanks for the laugh."
Nice try.

"Why are you so angry?"
Again, nice try…

"Your true idiotic Christian bullshit has come out"

I saw that you sent two messages since my earlier response. You are clearly steamed and I regret causing that [if I did.]  When I email people on ideological subjects I intend to provoke [only lightly] a correspondence. I apologize if my messages came across more mean than intended. 

Take care
Baconeater:




I honestly didn't read any of your email after the first sentence this time.  I'm not wasting my time on a professional cretard, except, I may blog about your emails and if you wish, you can continue your idiocy in a public setting.  One on one with a cretard like you is a total waste of energy and time.  I'm done laughing at you.  Now my readers can have a chuckle as soon as I choose to get to it.  That would mean of course, reading your latest email, which I'm sure mimics responses I've received from internet Christpunchers/evolution denialists many times over.


Do not email me again.  I have no time for reality denialists on a one to one level.  I'd rather respond in public so maybe some youngsters can Google the ass kicking I give you, and then they'll try to prevent themselves from being brainwashed any further by idiots like you.
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Now, since I copied his last email, I guess I promised to read it and respond, so here goes:
OK, is he really asking what the scientific community believes the age of the earth and universe is?  Obviously a flip the page technique is being attempted after I linked to a response that squashed his entropy objection.

Oh, he doesn't want a scientific answer or mathematical model as to why his cretard entropy argument is wrong.  He wants me to explain evolution in my own words.  Again, I refer to Potholer54's videos.  I'm not about to write him a 3 page response that he refuses to accept.
Blah, blah, blah, my attacks?  Did he read what he wrote about my blog to begin with, and does he not get that he paints atheists with the same brush from the getgo by accusing atheists of painting Christians, Repubs, etc. with the same brush.  The guy has a serious mental problem.
What is the answer to dealing with homosexuals EJ, maybe you can leave it in the comment section.  And now you are accusing me of having a Judaic mindset because I brought up stoning.  Geez, I thought the NT was full of quotes about killing gays for being gay, never mind that the NT is the sequel to the OT for Christians....I'm  open minded enough to want to see an answer here.  Should be fun.

I think that people can believe what they want to as long as they don't put bullshit in everyone's face.  If you want to believe the earth is a day old, or 6000 years old, go for it.  But keep that crap out public schools and the government.   If you want to believe that gays are sick and twisted, again, go for it, but you don't get to keep them from their basic rights as equal human beings, and that includes trying to stop them from marrying.  To me, involving the government or education board in this type of bullshit, is akin to blowing yourself up on a bus for Allah.  I have a big problem with it.

Again, I'm not steamed.  I did laugh.  I just find one on one debates with cretards to be tedious and useless.  I don't go around emailing Christpunchers.  Why do they need to email me?